2005-06-04 [Stephen]: Yeah... I think you need some help..

2005-06-04 [Solitiaum]: Shaddyup, lol... Im getting there...

2005-06-04 [Stephen]: Well, you put the page under watch... that's a start...

2005-06-04 [Solitiaum]: Shut up!, LOL!! *baps* I told you Im getting there!!!

2005-06-04 [Stephen]: *looks amazed* You actually edited the page! WoW!

2005-06-04 [Solitiaum]: *baps harder* XD

2005-06-04 [Stephen]: Of course.... there is still so much needed to be done... I would help, but alas, I need some directions... mayhaps I should just randomly create rules? ;)

2005-06-05 [Solitiaum]: No, I have a definite set of rules in mind... *sigh*

2005-06-05 [Stephen]: Okay.... what do I do then?

2005-06-05 [Solitiaum]: Just wait o_o and watch...

2005-06-05 [Stephen]: Wow.... so much is happening...

2005-06-05 [Stephen]: Hurry!! We need to hurry up and get moving!

2005-06-05 [Stephen]: Wow.... this will be FUN!

2005-06-05 [Solitiaum]: Thanks, Sunrose! I moved and dont have the template for the official banners anymore :(

2005-06-06 [Stephen]: I finished the EAX Moderators. I'm not really sure what you want me to do with the other ones, but I am pretty sure I can do EAX Applications.

2005-06-06 [Stephen]: EAX Applications is done. Although, what exactly is a title?

2005-06-06 [Stephen]: I also added a list of links to all the pages -- I do not have the X and R rated art on the links.

2005-06-10 [Stephen]: You ven go here anymore?

2005-06-10 [Solitiaum]: Yeah, lmao...

2005-06-10 [Solitiaum]: Title of the piece of art.

2005-06-10 [Stephen]: Oh, DUH! Stupid me!!

2005-06-11 [Solitiaum]: :P

2005-06-11 [Stephen]: I'm at a loss of what to do from here though.

2005-06-11 [Solitiaum]: We need official-ness banner type things... :P

2005-06-12 [Stephen]: *laughs* I couldn't make a banner if my life depended on it... But, I know someone who can. I'll get us one ASAP... unless... wanna make a (not-official) contest? I tend to a wiki full of people who make banners.

2005-06-12 [Solitiaum]: No... ish an official-thingy... Needs official banner... o_O

2005-06-12 [Stephen]: It sasy "recommanded" did it become official? (Does that mean Ima get a contractors badge?)

2005-06-12 [Solitiaum]: Youre gonna getta comratactors badge

2005-06-12 [Stephen]: Thanks ^_^

2005-06-12 [Solitiaum]: MOO!!

2005-06-12 [Stephen]: lol!!  (Any word on me and the council yet?)

2005-06-12 [Solitiaum]: not yet im drunk

2005-06-12 [Stephen]: lol, that's intresting! :P

2005-06-12 [Solitiaum]: moooooooooooooooooooooooo

2005-06-12 [Stephen]: *licks*

2005-06-12 [Solitiaum]: oooooOOOOOoooooo! *hugs*

2005-06-12 [Stephen]: *hugs back* We need to get this place moving...

2005-06-12 [Solitiaum]: Aye... Especially now that Im sober... :P

2005-06-12 [Stephen]: Yeah, you prolly work better now. :P

2005-06-12 [Stephen]: *whistels* We need to keep working...

2005-06-12 [Solitiaum]: You spelled whistles wrong :P

2005-06-12 [Stephen]: I know >_< Either way... Work is good... I cn't do much more with direction...

2005-06-19 [Sunrose]: Shouldn't there be a small explanation above the rules what this wiki is for? >.>

2005-06-19 [Stephen]: Good Idea! I'll do that right now! ...actually... I'm not 100% sure mysekf :S

2005-06-20 [Solitiaum]: It an art trade wiki. Like secret santa.

2005-06-20 [Stephen]: Okay. :) It also seems like a game, in a way.

2005-06-20 [Stephen]: *Pokes*

2005-06-20 [Solitiaum]: *pokes back with a BIG stick*

2005-06-20 [Stephen]: Ouch!

2005-06-20 [Sunrose]: Yes, so describe how that works? Because it doesn't say anywhere and other people besides you should also know ;)

2005-06-20 [Solitiaum]: Its in the rules... You sign up, and once a month youre assigned a commission via priviate message o.o; Turn it in, its given to the person that asked for it, and then you get to do another round...

2005-06-20 [Sunrose]: Please just add a small description to the wiki. I have to read the rules 5 times to understand. You have to think about the readers...

2005-06-20 [Stephen]: I like the new description :D Granted, I didn't know the request part myself and I helped make the page, but I know now.

2005-06-20 [Sunrose]: Problem is though people have to start making commisions before they are allowed to request: that means no one can request right now since no one created anything. And without requests, you can't create anything. I see a loophole here...

2005-06-20 [Solitiaum]: *makes some minor corrections* No no no... No comissions are required before you can request, perse. You request, and in that same round, you are given a commission. See?

2005-06-20 [Sunrose]: But then what if someone makes a commission, but they also made a request. The one you requested to make the image doesn't do the job: what will you do then? You'd have to give the assignment to someone else. In the meantime that person did do a request and it was already made. Since the requests can be very personal it may be that it can only be given to that person... :/ Do I make sense?

2005-06-20 [Solitiaum]: No, you dont. If someone doesnt get their art for that month, then the person who was *supposed* to do the piece wont get to participate in the next round. Anyone can step up and do the missed piece, or I can do it if it has to be done for something special or time restrictive.

2005-06-20 [Sunrose]: So you enter this wiki and make a commission. What will be done with your commision of your exchange partner didn't do his work?

2005-06-20 [Solitiaum]: Its not always going to be a direct exchange... Say theres like 3 people in a category... It'll be a gets b's commission, and b gets c's, and c gets a's. Capiche?

2005-06-20 [Sunrose]: Yes, that still didn't answer my question. What will you do with a's commision if c didn't do his work?

2005-06-21 [Sunrose]: So you get the piece of art when you yourself didn't do the work you were asked to do?

2005-06-21 [Solitiaum]: Aye...

2005-06-22 [Stephen]: That seems to be a small hole. An extremely unfair hole.

2005-06-22 [Solitiaum]: No one has complained at the livejournal AAX...

2005-06-22 [Sunrose]: At the what? Anyways I find it unfair and others probably didn't complain becaus ethey didn't think of this. These things should also be explained in the description at the top of the wiki. If we get confused, then others certainly will.

2005-06-23 [Solitiaum]: Livejournal anime art exchange. But then, we've never had anyone maliciously use the exchange just to get what they wanted, either...

2005-06-24 [Sunrose]: But they are probably all serious artists?

2005-06-24 [Solitiaum]: If someone does *that*, then there will be a ban in order, I think. And they wont get their art. o.o

2005-06-26 [Stephen]: Hmmm.... still, that makes the orginal art worth nothing.. which would be unfair to the artist who actually drew what they were supossed to.

2005-06-26 [Sunrose]: So the banned person doesn't get the art, then who gets it?

2005-06-26 [Stephen]: It could be put up for display... or maybe in a "adopt an artwork" page.

2005-06-28 [Solitiaum]: or auctioned for togs to the artist...

2005-06-28 [Sunrose]: Make a decision though, because it should be added to the rules. And maybe some additional explanation because we have asked far too many questions the wiki should've answered :/

2005-06-28 [Solitiaum]: Ok... Artists who deliberatly use the exchange to get what they want without any intention of giving it back will be banned, and the artwork done for them auctioned off for togs, which will go to the artist's account in the tog bank. Artists who participate in the exchange, but are hung up by real time issues and so cannot complete their commission will have a month to complete it, provided they give the moderator of their category notice, and will not be allowed to request art until it is complete. If they do not complete it within that extra month, they will be banned, and the art done for them will be auctioned off.

2005-06-29 [Sunrose]: Banned from what? And what if almost no artists plays Toggery? Then they'd have no togs either....

2005-06-29 [Solitiaum]: Banned from the Exchange, of course! And well, then, uhm... *sighs* For coolpoints, I guess... o.o;

2005-06-29 [Sunrose]: Coolpoints would have to be arranged somehow then. And I am only trying to help you....

2005-06-29 [Stephen]: This is an intresting problem.... and for coolpoints, someone would have to kill their cool points.

2005-06-29 [Solitiaum]: That would be me... I would kill mine for the sake of the competition... I dont understand the buggers anyhoo...

2005-06-29 [Solitiaum]: OR OR OR... I make a house for the Exchange and it, uhm, it gives out the cool points *nodnod*